docile tapeworm | 4,272 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 How do you pronounce Ninja Gaiden? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,269 Administrator · Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I pronounce it the way it's supposed to be pronounced - guy-den. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray | 2,490 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 The same way you pronounce Gradius. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,272 Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Murray said: The same way you pronounce Gradius. That’s the next poll!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,125 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 More interesting would be if the same voter did the opposing way of sounding it out. As a kid I would have. Gradius (grah-dee-us or gray-dee-us) I think would tilt far more one way than the other, but as a kid I imagine most here would have said gay-den for Gaiden. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,718 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Gaiden = Guy-den Like sai = sigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,370 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 44 minutes ago, Tulpa said: Gaiden = Guy-den Like sai = sigh Gigh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,725 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Correctly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesmaster14 | 464 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Same way I pronounce Iron Maiden. I'm not Japanese native so in English it's Gayden haha. Spoiler My analysis: GA-I-DE-N, translates phonetically to hiragana/katakana (JP alphabet). The I makes an EE sound. Simple as that. Really though I probably go between both pronunciations these days. Granted, gaiden might be a JP word, it might make sense to use the origin country's pronunciation, as many do with a word like tortilla for instance. Being fancy, one could say Guyden as that's the Japanese pronunciation. Then again I don't typically say Meh-he-co, I say Mexico. But, if one wants to be so fancy and only say Ninja Guyden, just call it Ninja Ryukenden as it's called in Japan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,124 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 59 minutes ago, DefaultGen said: Correctly This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,272 Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bearcat-Doug said: This. we can’t play this game anymore but can we still be friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat-Doug | 5,124 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, docile tapeworm said: we can’t play this game anymore but can we still be friends Well you have to play Ninja Gaiden II next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,272 Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bearcat-Doug said: Well you have to play Ninja Gaiden II next week. Loser has to pronounce it the right way for the rest of their lives! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Morbis | 2,121 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Before about 2002-ish: Gayden 2002 to present: Guyden Same with "Taito" and a whole wack of other Japanese words that have "ai" in the middle. Another one that really got me was Legend of Kage - it only took me like thirty years to learn that it was supposed to be pronounced Ka-gee, as in two syllables with a hard "G." Go figure... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 6,030 Events Team · Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 It's always been gayden. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman | 4,215 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 It is pronounced guyden if you're sticking to the Japanese pronunciation, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be pronounced that way. Pronunciation of foreign words don't always end up having the same pronunciation as their mother tongue. Also, regional differences can play a part. For example, how you pronounce 'A'. Americans pronounce the letter 'A' differently in a lot of words from English/Aus/NZ. So I could definitely see gayden being a common pronunciation of the word in the US. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 4,107 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Gayden. I know it’s supposed to be guy den but I have to force myself to say it that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 3,165 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I pronounce it "Gaiden", which is weirdly missing from the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,015 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 For those that pronounce it "guyden", how do you pronounce the word "tofu" ? Unless you pronounce "tofu" like my colleague does when speaking English (which is Dòufu, or for the uninitiated would be akin to saying "fettuccine" with an accent or toneage), then I think really there should be no argument about this. As many said, growing up I am sure the majority said "gayden", similarly "Tayto", "Cage", etc. Foreign words are often altered in pronunciation when coming into a foreign language. So next time you smugly correct someone about the pronunciation of Ninja Gaiden and Taito, I'll likely do the same about the Dòufu that you're eating. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumez | 3,165 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I've never heard anyone say "gayden" or "tayto" in real life. I don't really care if you say it that way, but actively arguing that you "should" do it is pretty nuts, why intentionally pronounce something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,015 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sumez said: I've never heard anyone say "gayden" or "tayto" in real life. I don't really care if you say it that way, but actively arguing that you "should" do it is pretty nuts, why intentionally pronounce something wrong? Exactly, so how do you say "tofu" again? 99.9% chance you say it wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,370 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, fcgamer said: Exactly, so how do you say "tofu" again? 99.9% chance you say it wrong Toe-fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,272 Posted June 6, 2023 Author Share Posted June 6, 2023 11 hours ago, JamesRobot said: It's always been gayden. @fcgamer @Sumez no kid (on the playground, bus or in the neighborhood) ever: “it’s actually pronounced guyden” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,269 Administrator · Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, fcgamer said: Exactly, so how do you say "tofu" again? 99.9% chance you say it wrong You like to play these language "gotcha" games, but it's totally irrelevant. How the rest of the world pronounces any given word is very much on a case by case basis. The beauty of language is that it's always evolving, such as literally becoming a synonym for figuratively, given context and/or tone. Even if people originally thought gaiden was pronounced "gay-den", doesn't mean the popular opinion on that can't change over time to align more closely to the Japanese pronunciation. And flip side of the coin is that just because native speaking Japanese might pronounce it "dou-fu" doesn't mean we have to. The funny thing is, if there's a "99.99% chance" of saying it "wrong", then guess what that means - you're the one who's wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,015 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gloves said: You like to play these language "gotcha" games, but it's totally irrelevant. How the rest of the world pronounces any given word is very much on a case by case basis. The beauty of language is that it's always evolving, such as literally becoming a synonym for figuratively, given context and/or tone. Even if people originally thought gaiden was pronounced "gay-den", doesn't mean the popular opinion on that can't change over time to align more closely to the Japanese pronunciation. And flip side of the coin is that just because native speaking Japanese might pronounce it "dou-fu" doesn't mean we have to. The funny thing is, if there's a "99.99% chance" of saying it "wrong", then guess what that means - you're the one who's wrong. Yeah man, I totally agree...aside from the fact that who is actually playing these "gotcha" games? This shouldn't even be a topic if folks weren't playing these "gotcha" games, as you put it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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