Gloves | 12,290 Administrator · Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 As we're working on getting a new system for Charms (aka Badges/Achievements/whatever), there's another system in place and tied to it which is Ranks. While we do the work of filling out the Badges so we can award users who have done cool stuff, we've already set up a base system for Ranks including the points required per tier, and some placeholder names and images. But they're just not our style, man. Ya know? Some villain used AI tools to create images, despite having a cool artist on staff, probably to save a buck. What a jerk. So now we need your help. With two things. Thing 1 We need names for the Ranks. Currently there are 14 total Ranks, but we'll need at least 15. 20-30 would be cool so we don't have to go back to the drawing board too soon once someone (me) clears all the ranks (again). Rank names show on desktop/large screens beside each post, and on your profile: Feel free to get creative. Let's forego the simplicity of "Rank 1, Rank 2...", and of course, obviously, nothing that could even be construed as offensive in any way - these are positive milestones to work toward to show everyone how cool you are, so nothing like "Forum Addict" for a high rank, stuff like that; keep it positive. The ranks could be references to gaming, to specific games, maybe even a journey through a group of games. For instance maybe the game you reference changes every 5 Ranks: Mario Luigi Daisy Peach Bowser Power Suit Varia Suit Phazon Suit Fusion Suit Gravity Suit etc... The above example makes it easy to add another 5 levels in the future by just picking a new game/series and pulling from that. But that's just my first idea off the top of my head. Feel free to steal it and provide your own list, or come up with something else entirely. Thing 2 We need images for the Ranks. We're not looking for you to draw them, we know a guy. And obviously some of them may be obvious (in a fictional world where this is a gardening forum, a Rank might be "Potato" and the image would obviously be of a derringer), so in that case no real need to make suggestions. But if you're thinking of doing something like we've done with the Subscriptions where the names are aspirationally vague and come with a little adventure of sorts... ... then you can suggest what your interpretation of the name(s) provided might look like in picture form. The images/icons will likely be rounded like the currently existing placeholders, and may end up having borders to differentiate them. Anywho. Thoughts, suggestions, lists, Rank names, pictures of cats, whatever. Let us know what you want to see, help us shape the place a bit more! Or else! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,398 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Rank 1: Ranky McRankFace Last Rank: Purple Ganon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Pac | 8,148 Graphics Team · Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Here's my pitch: 4 different categories of fantasy RPG classes, with 5 tiers each. So you rotate through all the classes every 4 ranks until you get to "Sage" at rank 20. And the icons would be like a little Pez-dispenser VGS avatar whose attire and equipment reflect their class / rank. 1 ) peasant 2 ) thief 3 ) huntsman / huntswoman 4 ) mage 5 ) squire 6 ) archer 7 ) falconer 8 ) conjuror 9 ) prince / princess 10 ) guard 11 ) horseman 12 ) warlock 13 ) baron / baroness 14 ) swordsman 15 ) shapeshifter 16 ) sorcerer 17 ) king / queen 18 ) knight 19 ) dragon-rider 20 ) sage Obviously a bunch of these ranks would need workshopping, but I think this could be a neat, cohesive approach that's on-brand with VGS. [T-Pac] 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray | 2,490 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 We need a handsome Murray rank 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirVillain | 535 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 16 hours ago, T-Pac said: Here's my pitch: 4 different categories of fantasy RPG classes, with 5 tiers each. So you rotate through all the classes every 4 ranks until you get to "Sage" at rank 20. And the icons would be like a little Pez-dispenser VGS avatar whose attire and equipment reflect their class / rank. 1 ) peasant 2 ) thief 3 ) huntsman / huntswoman 4 ) mage 5 ) squire 6 ) archer 7 ) falconer 8 ) conjuror 9 ) prince / princess 10 ) guard 11 ) horseman 12 ) warlock 13 ) baron / baroness 14 ) swordsman 15 ) shapeshifter 16 ) sorcerer 17 ) king / queen 18 ) knight 19 ) dragon-rider 20 ) sage Obviously a bunch of these ranks would need workshopping, but I think this could be a neat, cohesive approach that's on-brand with VGS. [T-Pac] This. Exactly this. Nailed the pictures, of course, as fully expected. Complete, comprehensive, and not complicated. Alliteration, BAYBAY! Also, the placement underneath the user's Avatar looks best (to me) if that's any input you're looking for as well. I actually feel a little slighted at being called a "Novice" right now. It hurts. Then some generic gaming guy with a controller and headphones like I'm a NOBODY!? Whoever came up with the original names and AI generated pictures really did us dirty. They ARE the true villain here as @Gloves pointed out... I just don't know who could be responsible for such a terrible thing. I hope they can sleep at night. I want to be a peasant! It's more accurate to my true identity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,290 Administrator · Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, AirVillain said: This. Exactly this. Nailed the pictures, of course, as fully expected. Complete, comprehensive, and not complicated. Alliteration, BAYBAY! Also, the placement underneath the user's Avatar looks best (to me) if that's any input you're looking for as well. I actually feel a little slighted at being called a "Novice" right now. It hurts. Then some generic gaming guy with a controller and headphones like I'm a NOBODY!? Whoever came up with the original names and AI generated pictures really did us dirty. They ARE the true villain here as @Gloves pointed out... I just don't know who could be responsible for such a terrible thing. I hope they can sleep at night. I want to be a peasant! It's more accurate to my true identity. The feedback on placement is totally valid and appreciated. I'll mull that over. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,290 Administrator · Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 17 hours ago, T-Pac said: Here's my pitch: 4 different categories of fantasy RPG classes, with 5 tiers each. So you rotate through all the classes every 4 ranks until you get to "Sage" at rank 20. And the icons would be like a little Pez-dispenser VGS avatar whose attire and equipment reflect their class / rank. 1 ) peasant 2 ) thief 3 ) huntsman / huntswoman 4 ) mage 5 ) squire 6 ) archer 7 ) falconer 8 ) conjuror 9 ) prince / princess 10 ) guard 11 ) horseman 12 ) warlock 13 ) baron / baroness 14 ) swordsman 15 ) shapeshifter 16 ) sorcerer 17 ) king / queen 18 ) knight 19 ) dragon-rider 20 ) sage Obviously a bunch of these ranks would need workshopping, but I think this could be a neat, cohesive approach that's on-brand with VGS. [T-Pac] Cool approach, but do you have thoughts regarding scaling? ie what might come after 20? For reference, I should be rank 20 in about 3-4 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,398 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 @Gloves you mentioned there was other ways to gain XP to level up like baubles and charms. Any idea on other ways? I’m not really a fan of a system that just requires you be a forum whore for points lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirVillain | 535 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Gloves said: The feedback on placement is totally valid and appreciated. I'll mull that over. No.... YOUR response is appreciated. You could do whatever the hell you want, haha. But I appreciate the input both ways. Mostly because it seems like the ranking takes precedent OVER (literally) a persons Avatar aka identity. When I first logged in I got kinda confused and was like "who the hell IS that tlaking?" then I realized everyone essentially had 2 pictures The placement underneath seems "classy" and a "nice touch." Edited October 2, 2023 by AirVillain I know you can see this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 937 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 If you want to be really geeky, maybe go by some game rarity. Id be leaning towards NES but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackVega | 583 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: If you want to be really geeky, maybe go by some game rarity. Id be leaning towards NES but you get the idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,290 Administrator · Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, a3quit4s said: @Gloves you mentioned there was other ways to gain XP to level up like baubles and charms. Any idea on other ways? I’m not really a fan of a system that just requires you be a forum whore for points lol Charms that you earn will have individually hand-picked rating points, so there's a ton of ways to help rank up. Play in a game night, participate in an event, put up a score on a leaderboard, help make a homebrew game, have a gaming tattoo, etc.. Lots of different ways than just "post a lot". Giving and getting reactions will increase your ranking as well so not just posting, but making posts that resonate with others will especially raise your rank. We're open to suggestions if you have anything specific in mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 4,110 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Gloves said: Charms that you earn will have individually hand-picked rating points, so there's a ton of ways to help rank up. Play in a game night, participate in an event, put up a score on a leaderboard, help make a homebrew game, have a gaming tattoo, etc.. Lots of different ways than just "post a lot". Giving and getting reactions will increase your ranking as well so not just posting, but making posts that resonate with others will especially raise your rank. We're open to suggestions if you have anything specific in mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 937 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 hours ago, BlackVega said: But I want to be an NWC 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,948 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 How does one spend experience points? Just as in some games you spend them for power-up it would be cool if there was some way to spend your EXP for "things" By the by, I've never fully understood the "exp" on the left and the +number on the right. If you zoom on the + it says "Members total exp" which is less than the exp on the left, so yeah, seems strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,290 Administrator · Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, avatar! said: How does one spend experience points? Just as in some games you spend them for power-up it would be cool if there was some way to spend your EXP for "things" By the by, I've never fully understood the "exp" on the left and the +number on the right. If you zoom on the + it says "Members total exp" which is less than the exp on the left, so yeah, seems strange. Yeah I've been meaning to make the numbers make more sense. Right now I agree, it's a bit unclear. Part of this update were working on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jicsan | 603 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Isn't the XP number on the left the number of actual posts and the number on the right the number of reactions your post have received? Edited October 3, 2023 by Jicsan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikk | 575 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 23 hours ago, Gloves said: Cool approach, but do you have thoughts regarding scaling? ie what might come after 20? For reference, I should be rank 20 in about 3-4 years from now. You could always take a smaller number of classes, let's say 10, and swap background colors to go from bronze, silver, gold or something for lazy easy scaling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,290 Administrator · Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 14 hours ago, Jicsan said: Isn't the XP number on the left the number of actual posts and the number on the right the number of reactions your post have received? Pretty sure, yeah. The problem I think, and this is my fault for trying to be fun, is I called them both "Experience" in some form. Need to rethink verbiage methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Pac | 8,148 Graphics Team · Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 23 hours ago, Gloves said: Cool approach, but do you have thoughts regarding scaling? ie what might come after 20? For reference, I should be rank 20 in about 3-4 years from now. I don't think it's unreasonable to just be happy about making it to the Sage rank. I mean - if it takes the owner of the site 7 years to reach level 20, I think it's quite an accomplishment. And I'm always in favor of having an "end goal" rather than just infinite scaling. But that's just me... [T-Pac] 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeevan | 9,165 Events Helper · Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, T-Pac said: I don't think it's unreasonable to just be happy about making it to the Sage rank. I mean - if it takes the owner of the site 7 years to reach level 20, I think it's quite an accomplishment. And I'm always in favor of having an "end goal" rather than just infinite scaling. But that's just me... [T-Pac] 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3quit4s | 4,398 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Jeevan said: Making it to level 20 unlocks New Game+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves | 12,290 Administrator · Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, a3quit4s said: Making it to level 20 unlocks New Game+ Once anyone including me reaches level 20 I'll manually reset their points to zero like 2000 points later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar! | 1,948 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Gloves said: Pretty sure, yeah. The problem I think, and this is my fault for trying to be fun, is I called them both "Experience" in some form. Need to rethink verbiage methinks. Again, I rather like the idea of people accumulating "experience points" and then spending them on something - maybe like a sword, shield, etc all stuff that could be added digitally without resulting in any actual monetary expenditure Maybe this could also be used in a tournament, or quests, or something fun like that down the line. Just some thoughts... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHazard51 | 2,105 Social Team · Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 11:02 AM, Gloves said: Once anyone including me reaches level 20 I'll manually reset their points to zero like 2000 points later. What, you trying to like an old Volvo where you just have the odometer roll over and you just mentally keep track how many times you've rolled over? That would be a cool Charm to have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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