cartman | 195 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tulpa said: Don't make me break down your posts sentence by sentence. Cartman still hasn't recovered from that. Lol there was nothing to recover from. You endorsed (self)censorship on subjective grounds where you could neither argue why a certain moralist case should trump another nor are you willing to see your own entertainment be on the recieving end of censorship from someone elses moralism. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Estil said: Unless it's on the approved list, it's a no-go. Correct. But did anyone ask for them? Because it clearly says in the article, there “wasnt a bright line drawn” So- If someone did want “god bless the USA”, they would have most likely allowed it. They had to be agreed upon by both parties. “Bargaining agreement” The NBA was happy, and players are happy. Yet you are here, outraged at the BLM movement and SJWs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, cartman said: Lol there was nothing to recover from. You endorsed (self)censorship on subjective grounds where you could neither argue why a certain moralist case should trump another nor are you willing to see your own entertainment be on the recieving end of censorship from someone elses moralism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodysGameRoom | 2,014 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Dress Code doesn't fall under Freedom of Speech. Your employer's dictate what you can and cannot wear. If you don't wear what they dictate, you can find another job. That is really the bottom line on this topic. Unreal that the debate goes any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ChickenTendas said: Could someone here break down the NBA situation objectively? I'm afraid I'm a bit out of the loop on this one. I'm more of a football, baseball, hockey guy. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29430249/equality-tops-list-nba-players-most-popular-social-justice-jersey-messages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estil | 1,291 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CodysGameRoom said: Dress Code doesn't fall under Freedom of Speech. Your employer's dictate what you can and cannot wear. If you don't wear what they dictate, you can find another job. That is really the bottom line on this topic. Unreal that the debate goes any further. You quite sure about that? I mean seriously this is one of the most famous Supreme Court cases... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District Oh yeah, I forgot all about any kind of pro-Hong Kong message; the I-heart-China NBA sure can't have that! Edited July 14, 2020 by Estil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, MrWunderful said: Those are the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,715 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Estil said: You quite sure about that? I mean seriously this is one of the most famous Supreme Court cases... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District That's a public school district, not a private organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodysGameRoom | 2,014 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Estil said: You quite sure about that? I mean seriously this is one of the most famous Supreme Court cases... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District Yep, still sure. Students of a public school are not employees of a private company. Edited July 14, 2020 by CodysGameRoom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Estil said: You quite sure about that? I mean seriously this is one of the most famous Supreme Court cases... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District Oh yeah, I forgot all about any kind of pro-Hong Kong message; the I-heart-China NBA sure can't have that! Breitbart article in the thumbnail? You do know that that guy Is making a living off selling easily outraged conservatives garbage videos right? He is probably clearing 5k a month at 750k subs. Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson do too, just on a much larger scale. Forget working for living, Ill just make videos with headlines like “Liberal Marxist public school Math teacher desecrates Veterans church american flag with Soros paid abortion inter-racial marriage” and just rake in the clicks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, MrWunderful said: Breitbart article in the thumbnail? You do know that that guy Is making a living off selling easily outraged conservatives garbage videos right? He is probably clearing 5k a month at 750k subs. Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson do too, just on a much larger scale. Forget working for living, Ill just make videos with headlines like “Liberal Marxist public school Math teacher desecrates Veterans church american flag with Soros paid abortion inter-racial marriage” and just rake in the clicks That's how Youtube is people are making careers out of it through patreon and sponsorships it's not like Tim Pool specifically invented it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, cartman said: That's how Youtube is people are making careers out of it through patreon and sponsorships it's not like Tim Pool specifically invented it. Did you hear the Beatles broke up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartman | 195 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, MrWunderful said: Did you hear the Beatles broke up? Rumor has it John Lennon is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino | 105 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Why is this a huge deal but ripping down statues left and right and vandalizing them isn't? Police have been told to stand by when vandals rip down statues, but for the BLM mural, they say "anyone with information regarding the suspected vandalism is asked to contact the police." https//www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/us/black-lives-matter-trump-mural-vandalized-trnd/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Estil said: And then you get that tricky question about what exactly constitutes "within reason". It's not tricky at all. Their requirements, regarding uniforms, are almost certainly clearly spelled out in their contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Tulpa said: That's a public school district, not a private organization. They are also students, not employees with a contract that maintains their employment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,880 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Rhino said: If I as a player don't agree with said message, I should be allowed to refuse to wear it with no penalties enacted upon me. You (lol) have the opportunity to have a message from a given list on your shirt. If you don’t agree with any of the messages, don’t choose one. Edited July 14, 2020 by Link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,880 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Estil said: Remember it's not just the President but we got 50 state governors (our own just announced we now have to wear masks or else we risk businesses refusing us service) and it would nice if there were by now at least a few who are clearly doing it right....then maybe we'd have something to go on. There could be a federal response but somebody doesn’t want to take responsibility. Some states are in fact doing better. Here’s some information about that from the only source you won’t denigrate (while claiming you aren’t guided by it) https://www.foxnews.com/health/new-coronavirus-map-half-states-poorly-uncontrolled-spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link | 2,880 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gloves said: Question, where does "I am a man" come from? Seems odd. From the days of Martin Luther King. (It predates that time, but it was a big slogan in civil rights marches) When black men were called “boy” and less savory things, this phrase was to stand and demand respect as a human being. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Man! The illustration hangs in my parents’ house still. Edited July 14, 2020 by Link 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,015 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 When will the BLM movement carry to China? Then again as we know, the racism is so much worse in the States. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,015 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Oh, I also saw this post in the covid thread, I feel a bit offended, as it's a stereotype about Asians, painting them in this stereotypical way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doctornick | 421 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 11 hours ago, Estil said: Didn't I already say that it's too early to tell? And even if we were in fact bring the pandemic cases down (which sadly we are not) I'm would take the same 'tude I did when pre-pandemic the economy was supposedly booming and such...in either case I wouldn't want to jinx it and not "celebrate too early" ya know? Bottom line, as far as this pandemic goes, I'm in NO position to be second guessing. Remember it's not just the President but we got 50 state governors (our own just announced we now have to wear masks or else we risk businesses refusing us service) and it would nice if there were by now at least a few who are clearly doing it right....then maybe we'd have something to go on. It's not too early to tell. Don't bury your head and look at the actual statistics. Stuff that I've posted in the Covid thread is occuring in line with when I said it would, and I'm no virus expert. Trump and a lot of governors have royally screwed up, but when they notice the cost in other areas maybe then they will admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estil | 1,291 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, fcgamer said: When will the BLM movement carry to China? Then again as we know, the racism is so much worse in the States. Neither they nor Japan have hardly any black people though right? I mean *looks up wiki* China is 92% Han Chinese and 97% of Japan is native Japanese. So I guess in places like that they can poke fun at most anyone that's not native Chinese or native Japanese and no one would bother raising an eyebrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodysGameRoom | 2,014 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 @fcgamer You don't know his personal experiences. If he went to the Asian market and they were all wearing masks, and he's speaking directly about that experience, then he isn't stereotyping. Why not @ him and ask instead of calling him out about it in another thread? @zeppelin03 , FCGamer wants to know why you are unfairly stereotyping Asian people. Care to rebut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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