captmorgandrinker | 1,654 Administrator · Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Does anybody care about this variant? I've had a couple of these and I'm not sure if the white end label commands any more than the regular yellow one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEAFC0DE | 1,277 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Are you sure that they are not just sunfaded from yellow to white? I think I remember seeing one and came to the conclusion that it was sunfaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xDEAFC0DE | 1,277 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Actually it was the box that was sunfaded. But I imagine that the end label would behave similarly. https://www.ebay.com/itm/264427073350 Edit: nvm, just realized that the red is sunfaded to white as well. So maybe it's different. Edited August 26, 2020 by 0xDEAFC0DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmorgandrinker | 1,654 Administrator · Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 40 minutes ago, 0xDEAFC0DE said: Are you sure that they are not just sunfaded from yellow to white? I think I remember seeing one and came to the conclusion that it was sunfaded. Pretty sure. The letters aren't faded at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 469 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 The white end label is a real thing. In fact I think the white looks better. Not sure which came first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmorgandrinker | 1,654 Administrator · Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 I thought maybe Wal-Mart pack in? I've seen about as many white Dr Mario as left Bros Mario 3, so maybe it was just a certain run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Are we talking the label on the cart? I think the copy I opened was an earlier run, but I'd have to go back and check which cart came with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH | 5,206 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 17 hours ago, austin532 said: The white end label is a real thing. In fact I think the white looks better. Not sure which came first though. Photo didn't load. Could you (or someone) try again to show what this looks like? I'm intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,704 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 It looks like this. And no, it's not sunfaded. To me it's like the gray Zeldas, or the Castlevania with the oversized Konami logo. Definitely less common, but not exactly commanding a premium. Not sure on the rarity of Dr. Mario white, but I don't think even a hardcore variant collector would give more than a dollar or so above the price of the more common one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorEncore | 3,691 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 For some reason none of the pictures in this thread will load for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,704 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Trying this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,266 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Likely Definitely not a variant. Notice how the "Dr. Mario" logo is pink? That's just pure Magenta from the "CMYK" printing process. There are four primary ink colors in the printing process. C for Cyan, M for Magenta, Y for Yellow, and K for Key or blacK. I noticed that yellow fades before magenta, which fades before cyan, which fades before black. I don't explicitly know the science behind it, but I know it has to do with Ultraviolet light having a high amount of energy that makes the chemical bonds in lighter color pigments fade faster than darker color pigments. This is the same thing as the "cyan top 10-yard fight". To make green in the CMYK spectrum you have to add Cyan + Yellow. When the yellow fades away you're left with pure cyan. Edited August 27, 2020 by ThePhleo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,006 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Although the label doesn't explicitly look faded, that pinkish / magenta colour definitely is a sign of sunfading. I hate that colour, Ive seen it so many times. Same with the notorious cyan colour @ThePhleo mentions in his post above. I honestly gotta agree with his analysis on this cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I would imagine if it was a variant, it would have a "-1" code on the front of the labels like other variants. IE NES-VM-1. Thats not ALWAYS the case but for a major change, I would guess it would have a revision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,266 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, fcgamer said: Although the label doesn't explicitly look faded, that pinkish / magenta colour definitely is a sign of sunfading. I hate that colour, Ive seen it so many times. Same with the notorious cyan colour @ThePhleo mentions in his post above. I honestly gotta agree with his analysis on this cart. That's another thing that I forgot to type out fully since I went on a tangent. The logo is supposed to be red. To make red with CMYK color, you have to add Magenta + Yellow. If the yellow fades away, you're left with raw magenta. Edited August 28, 2020 by ThePhleo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 469 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Doesn't red fade faster than yellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,266 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, austin532 said: Doesn't red fade faster than yellow? At first I was gonna say no, but it looks like the answer is way more complex than it seems. The scientific term for the "fadiness of ink" is called "Lightfastness" General anecdotes from printer inks seems to be magenta > yellow > cyan > black, but there are plenty of anecdotes that also say its yellow > magenta > cyan > black...I've even found a video where the blue pigments are the ones that fade most dramatically. Basically, it all really depends on the pigment. Edited August 29, 2020 by ThePhleo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,266 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Here's a paper written by smart people. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/27520693_Overview_of_the_lightfastness_of_commercial_printing_inks_Understanding_the_mechanisms_of_color_bleaching Their results vary wildly between magentas and yellows. The higher the score the better the ink lightfastness. I requested the full text of this one just now too, but it was written in 1999 so who knows. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/296330551_Overview_of_the_Lightfastness_of_Commercial_Printing_Inks_Part_II_Influence_of_Solar_and_Fluorescent_Light 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 469 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I feel like we are traveling deep down a rabbit hole that doesn't need to be traveled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhleo | 2,266 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, austin532 said: I feel like we are traveling deep down a rabbit hole that doesn't need to be traveled. ... but ... yeah you’re probably right. unless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austin532 | 469 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,006 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Team Variant, just admit that it's sunfaded... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmorgandrinker | 1,654 Administrator · Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 38 minutes ago, fcgamer said: Team Variant, just admit that it's sunfaded... No, especially now that YOU have chimed in! Actually, I may believe ink fading (like the proposed reason for the "teal" Baseball end labels), but some things to point out- If it were a natural flaw in the ink, wouldn't all of them have faded to this by now? If you've ever seen anything sunfaded, these don't look the same way sunfaded stuff does. Now to go buy a cheap Dr. Mario yellow and leave it in a window for a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 My instinct tells me it isnt a variant. For the top label to be different, you would have to see plenty more, esp for a mass released first party title. Open it up and check the date codes for them. If the date codes start matching up with other 'white' ended ones, id say yeah it is a variant. Go thru ebay and see how many you can find, including lots. Ive never seen one personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 6,026 Events Team · Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I demand a poll! It's faded btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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