Reed Rothchild | 9,918 Editorials Team · Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 That would be tough. For every Agalloch there is a Windir. For every Emperor there is a Wolves in the Throne Room. If we consider Alice in Chains and Faith No More to be metal, I have to lean towards US. Otherwise, In Flames, DT, Ghost, Kalmah, and many others probably lead a Scandinavian charge for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I really dont like, like 99% of US metal bands. Id def lean towards Scandinavia. I mean they have Meshuggah and Opeth which are already 2 of my favorite bands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: That would be tough. For every Agalloch there is a Windir. For every Emperor there is a Wolves in the Throne Room. If we consider Alice in Chains and Faith No More to be metal, I have to lean towards US. Otherwise, In Flames, DT, Ghost, Kalmah, and many others probably lead a Scandinavian charge for me. DT as in Dream Theater? They're from Kings Park, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman | 4,202 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 46 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: That would be tough. For every Agalloch there is a Windir. For every Emperor there is a Wolves in the Throne Room. If we consider Alice in Chains and Faith No More to be metal, I have to lean towards US. Otherwise, In Flames, DT, Ghost, Kalmah, and many others probably lead a Scandinavian charge for me. I’d say you could make the argument Alice in Chains are heavy metal although they probably classify themselves as grunge. Faith No More, well sometimes they’re genre onto their own haha. Have to agree with the Scandinavian side, it makes it tough but then I think of bands like Iron Maiden, Sabbath, Judas Priest, Led Zeppelin & Queen. That’s also some tough competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman | 4,202 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, guitarzombie said: DT as in Dream Theater? They're from Kings Park, NY Think he meant dark tranquillity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,918 Editorials Team · Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Shmup said: Think he meant dark tranquillity. Correct Probably not the best acronym with Devin Townsend also in the mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Correct Probably not the best acronym with Devin Townsend also in the mix I thought that too haha but I could only think of those 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Pac | 7,857 Graphics Team · Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 hours ago, drxandy said: @CasualCart what is up with british drummers fuckin killing it? Listened to a couple tracks and for this one I was like this fuckin drummer man holy crap. I can't believe this isn't a drum track(even though it probably is on the album) Got them architects vibes from em, I really like the time signature changes though, gonna have to listen more. Yeah - to be honest all it takes to sell me on drums is a double-kick bass haha, but you're right - this dude is insane. Seems like Oceans Ate Alaska just does whatever they want with their tracks - you never know what's coming and I love it. -CasualCart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Pac | 7,857 Graphics Team · Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 20 hours ago, MrWunderful said: A while back I got hooked on Ice Nine kills- The silver scream. Well written songs based on classic horror movies. Heck yeah - I never got into their classic horror stuff, but I listened to "The Power In Belief" constantly for a few months last year. Excellent stuff. -CasualCart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerfestus | 4,100 Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 I never really got into a lot of the US metal scene. I don’t do the brutal death stuff like Deicide and all them or the post nu metal stuff ala Lamb of God and all those bands with full sentences as band names that seems to be really prevalent. The US does have some real gems though. Agalloch, Iced Earth, Symphony X, etc. Plus the obvious legends and the better examples of hair metal. Oh the hair metal. I think that rather than being its own scene I’d argue that the metal coming out of Scandinavia is just the cream of the crop of the larger European metal scene. It’s not as if they are all producing some sort of homogenous output. You want black metal you look to Norway. You want death metal you go Sweden. You want folk influenced metal or power metal you’re looking for Finland. Germany obviously has their industrial stuff as well as the whole medieval metal scene. Etc. There‘s obviously significant crossover as well as a decent number of American bands in these styles. I guess the point I‘m making now (I don’t know that I was when I started) is that I don’t know that the modern UK scene is particularly distinct from that wider scene. Maybe it is? Either way, to me England is ground zero for heavy metal. NWOBHM basically kicked off everything around the world. Of course there’s Black Sabbath. One could argue that Ritchie Blackmore and Dio are as important to the foundational sound as Sabbath. And let’s not forget Iron Maiden. Easily as influential as Metallica, nearly all melodic metal is in their debt. Wait. What was I talking about? Everything I just said might’ve been nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickman | 4,202 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Hammerfestus said: I never really got into a lot of the US metal scene. I don’t do the brutal death stuff like Deicide and all them or the post nu metal stuff ala Lamb of God and all those bands with full sentences as band names that seems to be really prevalent. The US does have some real gems though. Agalloch, Iced Earth, Symphony X, etc. Plus the obvious legends and the better examples of hair metal. Oh the hair metal. I think that rather than being its own scene I’d argue that the metal coming out of Scandinavia is just the cream of the crop of the larger European metal scene. It’s not as if they are all producing some sort of homogenous output. You want black metal you look to Norway. You want death metal you go Sweden. You want folk influenced metal or power metal you’re looking for Finland. Germany obviously has their industrial stuff as well as the whole medieval metal scene. Etc. There‘s obviously significant crossover as well as a decent number of American bands in these styles. I guess the point I‘m making now (I don’t know that I was when I started) is that I don’t know that the modern UK scene is particularly distinct from that wider scene. Maybe it is? Either way, to me England is ground zero for heavy metal. NWOBHM basically kicked off everything around the world. Of course there’s Black Sabbath. One could argue that Ritchie Blackmore and Dio are as important to the foundational sound as Sabbath. And let’s not forget Iron Maiden. Easily as influential as Metallica, nearly all melodic metal is in their debt. Wait. What was I talking about? Everything I just said might’ve been nonsense. Haha I don’t know what your point is but I agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,918 Editorials Team · Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 The US has sheer numbers on its side. Even if a lot of it is stuff any given metalhead may not be into. You've got Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, Testament, Megadeth, Exodus and so forth You've got Dream Theater, Tool, Queensrych, Symphony X, Between the Buried and Me and so forth You've got Death, Suffocation, Atheist, Cynic, The Faceless and so forth You've got Periphery, After the Burial, Human Abstract and so forth You've got Agalloch, Deafhaven, Wolves in the Throne Room, and so forth You've got Iced Earth, Kamelot, Savatage and so forth You've got August Burns Red, Killswitch, As I Lay Dying, and so forth You got your Faith No Mores and Alice in Chains, and Rage Against the Machines, and Panteras, and Guns n Roses, and so forth You have your Korns, and Slipknot's, and Deftones and so forth System of a Down. Dog Fashion Disco. Horse the Band. GWAR... The Melvins, Mastodon, Dillinger Escape Plan, High on Fire... Regardless of your taste, there's something for everyone. Even if we don't have the strength of Sweden's MDM, Finland's extreme power, Britain's NWOHM, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette | 1,606 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Both are awesome! Some nods to America on some styles though. I would take Slayer and Megadeth over Sodom and Kreator. I would take Death and Cynic over In Flames and Amon Amarth. And outside of Opeth, American progressive metal has no equal. That being said, we are comparing gold to platinum. All of it is really really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,918 Editorials Team · Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Today's been an Insomnium day one of the MDM bands I never got to see before I had kids. Alas, some day... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarzombie | 935 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Kguillemette said: Both are awesome! Some nods to America on some styles though. I would take Slayer and Megadeth over Sodom and Kreator. I would take Death and Cynic over In Flames and Amon Amarth. And outside of Opeth, American progressive metal has no equal. That being said, we are comparing gold to platinum. All of it is really really good. And Meshuggah! I will agree with this. Although I do play prog metal myself haha but we're more Megadeth/Angra. Also Intronaut is pretty damn good for an American band. I really don't like that prog now means just lower quality Meshuggah, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kguillemette | 1,606 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, guitarzombie said: And Meshuggah! I will agree with this. Although I do play prog metal myself haha but we're more Megadeth/Angra. Also Intronaut is pretty damn good for an American band. I really don't like that prog now means just lower quality Meshuggah, personally. Not a huge meshuggah fan, but mad respect to tomas haake. He's got to be in the top 10 for metal drummers. The song bleed hurts my brain just trying keep the count. That double bass pedal is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,268 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 @Silent Hill @Aguy so i checked out both tracks. the first from silent. i like it. he likes to sing and seems to "soften" it up. the "rats". was "harder". he still wanted to sing. even though he would be screaming. he still wanted to sing...like brittney spears. rats was "harder" but i dont know why. faster and chugga chugga chugga badada dadada da... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,268 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 @Reed Rothchild dude.... i still had 1:00 left on that insomnium track i was done lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,268 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 i love these two. how do metal heads judge me before you knoooooooOOOOoooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOooowwwww it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,092 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, docile tapeworm said: i love these two. how do metal heads judge me before you knoooooooOOOOoooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOooowwwww it. Oh man I love me some System of a Down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,918 Editorials Team · Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, docile tapeworm said: @Reed Rothchild dude.... i still had 1:00 left on that insomnium track i was done lol. Sucks to suck. Perhaps this is more your speed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,268 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Sucks to suck. Perhaps this is more your speed opinion pending.... is that oscar the grouch? you replace the korn frontman with spears and its fucking gold. Edited December 11, 2020 by docile tapeworm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,268 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 i like that the deftones guy likes to sing. its nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,268 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Reed Rothchild said: Sucks to suck. also funny because im like maybe i fit in here Edited December 11, 2020 by docile tapeworm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docile tapeworm | 4,268 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 @mbd39 self title is my favorite. toxicity is good. steal it.... that was the end for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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