Vidarr2000 | 13 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 As the title says, I would like to get my 2 case fresh copies of Mega Man 64 graded, but I don't know which service is the best overall. I'm new to grading, but I want to at least have these two prized possessions graded by the better service, whichever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 6,026 Events Team · Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I think you should send 'em to me. Kidding aside, TWATA seems to be the standard of the day. If you want to sell on Heritage Auctions, they won't take VAG. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOURTURN | 1,258 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 As of right now you would have to contact them to see what it would cost to have your games be graded. Because looking that up would have you see their error page. Something that pops up for other topics on every page that is not AFA. But their acting CSR might be able to give you that information. Just note that you need to contact them by email. Their phone lines are nonexistent because of Covid-19. So when it comes to that I think they will reply quickly if said error is not tied to them looking into another price hike. But despite that I suggest Wata with thoughts on going VGA if you do not like them in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayleonis | 16 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 i just sent a few games into wata for the first time. they seem kind of awful. Item arrived at their address 6 days ago and their website still doenst show the are received. but the part thats more frusterating is its impossible to talk to them. they never answer the phone and emails take 4+ days to get a response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverspoonGaming | 348 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 VGA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BortLicensePlate | 652 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/13/2020 at 6:40 PM, JamesRobot said: I think you should send 'em to me. Kidding aside, TWATA seems to be the standard of the day. If you want to sell on Heritage Auctions, they won't take VAG. Not into the VAG are they? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracleoflosangeles | 36 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I would send one to VGA and one to Wata. That way you can compare cost, grading, turn around time, case looks etc. I sent some games to Wata and had to email them to see if they got my games. They did respond (and it didn't take 4 days) but they should send a confirmation email automatically when our games are received (IMO). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 6,026 Events Team · Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 47 minutes ago, BortLicensePlate said: Not into the VAG are they? I don't know why. TWATA, VAG, it's all the same to me. Course, my standards are lower than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,723 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Wata SNES/N64 cases are so ugly because they hold the game sideways. I can't imagine a world where they don't fix them somehow in the future. If it's for your personal collection I would just wait on a redesign, which will probably take years because Wata is too busy printing more money than their coffers can hold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOURTURN | 1,258 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Jayleonis said: i just sent a few games into wata for the first time. they seem kind of awful. Item arrived at their address 6 days ago and their website still doenst show the are received. but the part thats more frusterating is its impossible to talk to them. they never answer the phone and emails take 4+ days to get a response Your issues are pretty much tied to Covid-19 related mandates. The only employees that can be there are graders, supervisors, and security. Those tied to customer service are required to work at home, which has since slowed down things like updates and response times. They do not have automatic information what arrived when, and they cannot be there to respond to any phone-based questions or concerns they could otherwise answer. The same is to be said about CGA, Inc. since I had to deal with issues like this more than once this year. In the end your issues are not their fault. And will hope you find out that once everything gets back to normal things like that will not be repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BortLicensePlate | 652 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JamesRobot said: I don't know why. TWATA, VAG, it's all the same to me. Course, my standards are lower than most. Did not even pick up on the Twata the first time haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,329 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I would send one to each, but Wata is stopping new orders for 2 weeks until Jan 8th. So if you're in a hurry VGA is your only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumars2001 | 164 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I say VGA. They have been around the block the longest and from my experiences, they always have great customer service. That being said, WATA is the hot/popular choice at the moment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone3969 | 316 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 For flipping... WATA, For keeping... VGA. Actually the earlier mentioned idea of sending one to each would be ideal I think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coops_Collection | 18 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, tbone3969 said: For flipping... WATA, For keeping... VGA. Actually the earlier mentioned idea of sending one to each would be ideal I think. I'm only just getting into the graded games market but this definitely seems to be the case. I don't understand why people like WATA for SNES/N64 when it's sideways...it displays so poorly in my opinion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayleonis | 16 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Coops_Collection said: I'm only just getting into the graded games market but this definitely seems to be the case. I don't understand why people like WATA for SNES/N64 when it's sideways...it displays so poorly in my opinion wata scale is easier to understand and more in line with the majority of other collectible grading scales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coops_Collection | 18 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Jayleonis said: wata scale is easier to understand and more in line with the majority of other collectible grading scales. The scale between 9-10 doesn't seem very intuitive. 9, 9.2, 9.4, 9.6 9.8? 0.5-9, sure. Which is similar to PSA, CGC, BGS in the trading card world with half grades, which is the only grading I have experience with. As for 0-100 in the case of VGA, I'd argue the decimal point has just moved (i.e. 80 = 8.0) I may just be biased since I'm not a fan of how the WATA case/label looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonebone | 1,329 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Coops_Collection said: I'm only just getting into the graded games market but this definitely seems to be the case. I don't understand why people like WATA for SNES/N64 when it's sideways...it displays so poorly in my opinion Its an acquired taste. When I started collecting in 2008 I had no idea how people collected sealed games in plastic. Took me till around 2010 to come around. Took me a bit to accept the Wata case orientation but it doesn't bother me anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOURTURN | 1,258 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Coops_Collection said: The scale between 9-10 doesn't seem very intuitive. 9, 9.2, 9.4, 9.6 9.8? 0.5-9, sure. Which is similar to PSA, CGC, BGS in the trading card world with half grades, which is the only grading I have experience with. As for 0-100 in the case of VGA, I'd argue the decimal point has just moved (i.e. 80 = 8.0) I may just be biased since I'm not a fan of how the WATA case/label looks To be honest I am also not a fan of Wata's 3-D labels when it comes to those types of packaging. But I am also not a big fan of having the label on top for a lot of toy and game-related stuff. Which is why I like Wata's 2-D labels. It does not look as weird for select games, and you do not have to look inside the acrylic case to see how it graded. As for grading scales... I like Wata's because it shows that it is not hard to grade both the wrap/seal and the box. But grading scale-wise, I am neutral. I am used to both so I can go either way. But am also leaning more and more towards Wata because their cases do not look like they can easily topple if there was an earthquake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coops_Collection | 18 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 hours ago, FenrirZero said: But am also leaning more and more towards Wata because their cases do not look like they can easily topple if there was an earthquake. If we're going for earthquake proof I can't argue with that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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