AstralSoul | 522 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I'm talking about Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Diablo, Warcraft, etc. Is the Diablo port on PS1 any good? Is there any console version of Wolfenstein and Doom that match how good they play on PC? Aside from modern digital releases, I've played Doom on Switch and Wolf3D on ps3 and they play almost perfectly. But I'm talking like 5th gen consoles and backwards. I've only played Doom and Wolf on SNES and as predicted they do not play all that well, at least not as good as the PC versions. Duke Nukem 64 is a good port of DN3D but cuts out the music which is unfortunate. So with that said, what are some good PC/DOS to console ports from the 90s and earlier that actually play as well as the PC versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,951 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Yeah, Duke Nukem, Quake and Hexen all play well on the N64. Obviously Doom 64 is it's own game, but it is a great Doom game in its own right. Anyone who complains about the controller can bite my entire ass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralSoul | 522 Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, OptOut said: Yeah, Duke Nukem, Quake and Hexen all play well on the N64. Obviously Doom 64 is it's own game, but it is a great Doom game in its own right. Anyone who complains about the controller can bite my entire ass. It's too bad Doom 64 wasn't just a port of Doom. But yeah it was really good in it's own right. Andi think we are the only ones here who agree that N64 has the best controllers. Three armed aliens ftw! And yes Hexen, Duke Nukem, Quake and Doom 64 are all fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultGen | 5,714 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Switch Doom is a remake of Doom in Unity. I think there was some internet gamer outrage about it when it released. Most console ports are pretty grungy without making a bunch of "Well, considering the limitations..." arguments. The best ones will have features the PC game doesn't like Doom 64 is its own thing or Diablo PS1 has local co-op. SimCity on SNES is a great port, although I don't know if it beats playing with a mouse. You get a Mario statue though! Star Control II is pretty notably improved from DOS to 3DO, mostly with voice acting that really brings out the personality of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erac | 80 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 N64's C&C and Starcraft were fun, even if it's not the same as mouse-keyboard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralSoul | 522 Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, DefaultGen said: Switch Doom is a remake of Doom in Unity. I think there was some internet gamer outrage about it when it released. Most console ports are pretty grungy without making a bunch of "Well, considering the limitations..." arguments. The best ones will have features the PC game doesn't like Doom 64 is its own thing or Diablo PS1 has local co-op. SimCity on SNES is a great port, although I don't know if it beats playing with a mouse. You get a Mario statue though! Star Control II is pretty notably improved from DOS to 3DO, mostly with voice acting that really brings out the personality of the game. SNES SimCity is my favorite version of the game just based on the soundtrack alone. And yes Doom 1&2 (and 3?) Were remade in unity but I think they're good, and close enough to the originals for me. But I'm asking about older consoles for collection purposes as well. Duke Nukem Advance on GBA is a really good game for the portable but it's its own game, not a port iirc. Ill have to check out Diablo on PS1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,951 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 SNES Wolfenstein DOES at least have a map, which I think improves the game by a surprising amount. I actually really like that game, it's a unique feeling to play an FPS on a Super Nintendo lol! I KNOW that if I had had it as a kid it would have been one of my favourite games ever, perhaps I should also check out Doom... I have the 32X version and I like that too, lol! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox | 1,757 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I really like the PS1 port of Diablo. You can play it co-op local, use double speed, and use the buttons to hack and slash. It gives the game a more Gauntlet vibe. It also has over an hour of voice work for the lore, which is something cool to hear. Spellcasting is a bit tricky and saves take up a absurd 10 blocks (it came with a memory card back in the day.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj_robot | 557 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Wolfenstein 3D is great on the Jaguar and the 3DO, and I feel even better than the DOS original. Higher quality textures, map screen, extra weapons and (imho) a better, more condensed level set. The 3DO port also has the entire DOS level set as well, and a new soundtrack. Doom on PS1 was amazing as well. As far as how it compares with the original DOS game probably is a matter of opinion, but I always liked the new, creepy soundtrack and the added lighting and graphical effects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumer | 221 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) EA put out some good ones for the Genesis back then. Starflight (awesome game) Might and Magic II And, of course, Pirates Gold! EDIT: Oh, and the definitive way of playing Star Control II is the 3DO rom of the game. You can download it for free at SourceForge under its subtitle, "The Ur-Quan Masters." Edited March 12, 2021 by Sumer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye | 1,601 Homebrew Team · Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Doom for PS1 was great. There were compromises, but minor in the grand scheme to play it on a console in the 90's. I still play it to this day, my original long box copy. I was going to chime in with a DOS title I wish made it way to console, Carmageddon, but it turns out it did on N64. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,951 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, Deadeye said: I was going to chime in with a DOS title I wish made it way to console, Carmageddon, but it turns out it did on N64. Ooooof, yeah... Now technically it's not even a port it's its own game... But one HORRIBLY mangled at the hands of Titus... Yes, THAT Titus, who also published Superman 64 and a BUNCH of other shit! Now, I would never actually recommend anyone play Carmageddon 64, LEAST of all people who like the original PC version... HOWEVER, if you happen to be a complete sicko, like yours truly, you will definitely be able to get a BUNCH of sick kicks out of this game! It is absolutely in the "so bad it's good" territory, but only if you know what you're letting yourself in for. It's a broken mess, but boy, WHAT a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone3969 | 316 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Doesn't the Wii Indiana Jones game have a port of the old school point and click PC game Indian Jones and The Fate of Atlantis? I bet it is a good port. Anyone played it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptOut | 8,951 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, cj_robot said: Wolfenstein 3D is great on the Jaguar and the 3DO, and I feel even better than the DOS original. Higher quality textures, map screen, extra weapons and (imho) a better, more condensed level set. The 3DO port also has the entire DOS level set as well, and a new soundtrack. Doom on PS1 was amazing as well. As far as how it compares with the original DOS game probably is a matter of opinion, but I always liked the new, creepy soundtrack and the added lighting and graphical effects. Have you played the 3DO port of Doom by any chance? I tried it out myself, but for some reason I experienced HORRENDOUS input lag on the controls... I booted up Wolfenstein on my 3DO to compare straight after, and it played fine... Anyone else notice anything like that on 3DO doom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch_8ngel | 1,597 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 The low-numbered Might and Magic and Wizardry games get a much better graphical treatment on home consoles than they ever did on the PC. The only downside of the console releases is an inability to port your characters from one game to the next -- but as I understand it that feature may not have worked as intended in the first place. Prince of Persia "feels better" on the console IMO -- though I'm sure you could make the argument that the control is more precise with a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj_robot | 557 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, OptOut said: Have you played the 3DO port of Doom by any chance? I tried it out myself, but for some reason I experienced HORRENDOUS input lag on the controls... I booted up Wolfenstein on my 3DO to compare straight after, and it played fine... Anyone else notice anything like that on 3DO doom? Yes, 3DO Doom is awful. It was actually ported by the same studio (Logicware) as the 3DO Wolfenstein, but apparently the publisher of Doom just wanted it out as fast as possible, regardless if it was ready or not. Interplay seemed to be more helpful with the production of Wolf3D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaMan52 | 2,550 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) Sonic CD in Sonic Gems Collection is a reasonably good port of the 1996 PC version, but unfortunately it is missing the water transparency effects in Tidal Tempest. Edited March 12, 2021 by MegaMan52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralSoul | 522 Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 11 hours ago, OptOut said: SNES Wolfenstein DOES at least have a map, which I think improves the game by a surprising amount. I actually really like that game, it's a unique feeling to play an FPS on a Super Nintendo lol! I KNOW that if I had had it as a kid it would have been one of my favourite games ever, perhaps I should also check out Doom... I have the 32X version and I like that too, lol! Oh god a map would've helped so much! So Wolf 3D on SNES is good? And Doom on SNES is bad right? So I've heard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralSoul | 522 Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 10 hours ago, fox said: I really like the PS1 port of Diablo. You can play it co-op local, use double speed, and use the buttons to hack and slash. It gives the game a more Gauntlet vibe. It also has over an hour of voice work for the lore, which is something cool to hear. Spellcasting is a bit tricky and saves take up a absurd 10 blocks (it came with a memory card back in the day.) Since I'm not overly fond of point and click style dungeon crawlers, the direct control would probably enhance my enjoyment of the game even more. Not to mention with console ports I don't have to wonder whether or not they'll be able to play, unlike most old PC and DOS games. That's kind of awesome that Diablo came with a memory card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJimtendo | 1,210 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Blackthorne on snes is great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd39 | 2,086 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Oh man, I loved Genesis Star Flight as a kid. Me and a friend were up all night playing it. The best part was no code wheel! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,085 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Best console ports of PC games. Fun.... I'm just doing this as a memory exercise for myself, so if I miss something or get it wrong, oh well... Emulated/simulated releaese like Doom since BFG package or the Wii Indiana Jones title that had Fate of Atlantis emulated as an extra I won't include. Also excluding handheld games like the GBA that had some good copies. The Lost VIkings and Blackthorne had fantastic releases of those PC titles on SNES.PS1 got amazing conversions of Diablo(I prefer it with controller) and Warcraft II. Wing Commander had a mostly excellent port to the SNES, as did its addon-pack too which also hit SNES on a 2nd cart. Command & Conquer and Starcraft 64 on N64 were utterly amazing in how well they were done. 3DO got like the definintively awesome release of Star Control II that the homebrew release these days often uses assets from to enhance the experience. (The Ur Quan Masters.) Nintendo/Maxis took a few liberties, but wow was SimCity(Classic) done fantastic on there. More obscure sure, but Spectre was a PC DOS game, the SNES game looks and plays quite well. Hexen, Quake/Quake II are shockingly good on N64 and more or less faithful. Tell me if I'm wrong, but what about the Ultima DOS titles, aren't they same that hit the NES and/or SNES? I know it's uncool, but just because it stood for years as sadly the most accurate to stage design and total stages included, but bizarrely SNES Doom was the most complete copy of the game, despite the asinine NO saving and 1 of 8 monster views, until they started simulating/emulating the entire original WAD package which is just weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralSoul | 522 Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Tanooki said: Best console ports of PC games. Fun.... I'm just doing this as a memory exercise for myself, so if I miss something or get it wrong, oh well... Emulated/simulated releaese like Doom since BFG package or the Wii Indiana Jones title that had Fate of Atlantis emulated as an extra I won't include. Also excluding handheld games like the GBA that had some good copies. The Lost VIkings and Blackthorne had fantastic releases of those PC titles on SNES.PS1 got amazing conversions of Diablo(I prefer it with controller) and Warcraft II. Wing Commander had a mostly excellent port to the SNES, as did its addon-pack too which also hit SNES on a 2nd cart. Command & Conquer and Starcraft 64 on N64 were utterly amazing in how well they were done. 3DO got like the definintively awesome release of Star Control II that the homebrew release these days often uses assets from to enhance the experience. (The Ur Quan Masters.) Nintendo/Maxis took a few liberties, but wow was SimCity(Classic) done fantastic on there. More obscure sure, but Spectre was a PC DOS game, the SNES game looks and plays quite well. Hexen, Quake/Quake II are shockingly good on N64 and more or less faithful. Tell me if I'm wrong, but what about the Ultima DOS titles, aren't they same that hit the NES and/or SNES? I know it's uncool, but just because it stood for years as sadly the most accurate to stage design and total stages included, but bizarrely SNES Doom was the most complete copy of the game, despite the asinine NO saving and 1 of 8 monster views, until they started simulating/emulating the entire original WAD package which is just weird. For some reason I never thought of Blackthorne or Lost Vikings aw PC titles because I've only played them on SNES and they feel like console games, so I guess that definitely reinstates how well they were done. And yea seems like every version of Doom is missing something. I'm genuinely curious though what IS the best console version of Doom? I've heard the PS1 version is but isn't it missing some levels? I never played it on SNES but I've heard nothing but bad things, I didn't even realize there was no save option, that's annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peg | 382 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 According to Wikipedia lost vikings was first released on the snes, not the pc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox | 1,757 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) Jaguar port of Doom is solid despite missing some levels. There is no music but in a way that makes things more creepy. It came with an overlay for the keypad that allowed you to switch to any weapon with a button press. It even had Lan support. Edited March 13, 2021 by fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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