Dad Racer | 38 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, fcgamer said: It's really easy to get the PCB out that way, Ive done it with these types of games plenty of times. Alright, that makes me feel a little better. I'm just a little bit worried I'll flex the case halves too much and break something. Maybe I'll give it a go later. Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,715 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) Just be sure to note which way the PCB faces as it slides out, and put it back the same way. That will save you a lot of aggravation. Edited October 26, 2021 by Tulpa 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,015 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dad Racer said: Alright, that makes me feel a little better. I'm just a little bit worried I'll flex the case halves too much and break something. Maybe I'll give it a go later. Thanks! It's just about wiggling mostly. I did this as a teen and the PCBs would shuffle out quite easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Racer | 38 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 Got the PCB with some wiggling. Phew. Anyways, I thought you guys would like to see pics, so here they are. Seems pretty standard compared to the bootgod database. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone3969 | 316 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Very nice. Were you able to get the game to stop glitching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,715 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Color Dreams PCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peg | 382 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 hours ago, ThePhleo said: Okay now this is VERY interesting. You have some archivist / collector material right there now and maybe the end of our argument! Hey @Dr. Morbis guess you were right Any chance you can change your video to being one booting up this game with everything in full view? Ive never seen a Sharedata chiller inside an AGCI cartridge. Then again, how many people are actually going to boot up their chiller cartridges and document the title screen!? You’ve just opened a world of possibility… Never seen it? I've got one just like the OP, sharedata on the title screen and the cart looks just like his. I really doubt this is some rarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Racer | 38 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, peg said: Never seen it? I've got one just like the OP, sharedata on the title screen and the cart looks just like his. I really doubt this is some rarity. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,333 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 It's hard to tell, but some of the solder points look a bit messy. If you have a soldering iron, maybe just touch each of them to remelt the solder, especially on the CHR chip (that's the one storing the graphical data). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Racer | 38 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, the_wizard_666 said: It's hard to tell, but some of the solder points look a bit messy. If you have a soldering iron, maybe just touch each of them to remelt the solder, especially on the CHR chip (that's the one storing the graphical data). Popped the board back in before seeing this, and still no dice. Intro screen looks the same as before. I guess reflowing some solder will be the next thing to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,333 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dad Racer said: Popped the board back in before seeing this, and still no dice. Intro screen looks the same as before. I guess reflowing some solder will be the next thing to try. Yeah, I have a funny feeling it may do the trick. It worked for my 2600, and I've got a funny feeling that AGCI would've probably used the same sort of cheap solder that Atari did to save a few pennies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,783 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Dad Racer said: Popped the board back in before seeing this, and still no dice. Intro screen looks the same as before. I guess reflowing some solder will be the next thing to try. Or if you have a heat gun, you could just heat the solder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,333 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 hours ago, phart010 said: Or if you have a heat gun, you could just heat the solder That might help, but probably not all that much. And honestly, it'll take longer to heat up the iron than to actually reflow the solder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Racer | 38 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 hours ago, tbone3969 said: Very nice. Were you able to get the game to stop glitching? Unfortunately no luck after cleaning and some solder reflowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,715 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Sounds like the chip may be corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_wizard_666 | 1,333 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Dad Racer said: Unfortunately no luck after cleaning and some solder reflowing. Do you have a voltmeter? Might be worth checking the continuity and making sure everything is properly connected. Some of the traces look a bit rough. Aside from that, it's probably as Tulpa suggested, although I have yet to encounter that particular problem in my travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,783 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Are the chips on these unlicensed games mask rom or eprom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Racer | 38 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 8 hours ago, the_wizard_666 said: Do you have a voltmeter? Might be worth checking the continuity and making sure everything is properly connected. Some of the traces look a bit rough. Aside from that, it's probably as Tulpa suggested, although I have yet to encounter that particular problem in my travels. Thanks, I'll take another look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,715 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, phart010 said: Are the chips on these unlicensed games mask rom or eprom? Depends. There are some eproms running around. His has mask roms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart010 | 1,783 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tulpa said: Depends. There are some eproms running around. His has mask roms. Ok. My guess is the chance of the mask roms being the issue is very minimal. Probably bad trace(s) somewhere on the board or a cracked solder connection Edited October 27, 2021 by phart010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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