fcgamer | 5,015 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 The truth is California causes cancer. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tulpa said: Yeah, every state has some stereotype quirk. Florida has Florida Man, California never met a law it didn't pass, Montana is a haven for shack-dwelling anarchists, Kansas ... exists. (No offense to Kansans, I was born there. ) Dont talk about @Reed Rothchild like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Swing and a miss Dave! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Rothchild | 9,963 Editorials Team · Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Tulpa said: Yeah, every state has some stereotype quirk. Florida has Florida Man, California never met a law it didn't pass, Montana is a haven for shack-dwelling anarchists, Kansas ... exists. (No offense to Kansans, I was born there. ) Phew, you could have gone with "sheep fuckers"! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Reed Rothchild said: Phew, you could have gone with "sheep fuckers"! Being a big city california surfer stoner, I always pictured lumberjacks. Paul Bunyan-y. Growing up I always thought that story was from Montana for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesRobot | 6,030 Events Team · Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, fcgamer said: The truth is California causes cancer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,125 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, fcgamer said: The truth is California causes cancer. Terminal brain cancer, largely lacking any good thought at the legislative level anymore (and as such the population largely who keep them in there.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,411 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 hours ago, Tulpa said: Because the lawmakers see the overall goal as the shiny object, and don't see the devil in the details. It all looks good on paper, and 95% or so of the time it works okay, but the 5% ends up a comical failure. I'll give you another for instance. Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez introduced AB 5 recently, aimed at providing gig workers with benefits and a better wage. Seems fine on the surface, and it was aimed at getting Uber and Lyft drivers a better deal than the starvation wages they were working at. Well, they didn't make the bill detailed enough, so other gig workers, who work in low budget entertainment (theatre, gig music, etc.) were classed as hourly workers, even when they didn't want to be, (because they had day jobs that paid the bills and just wanted to make art/entertainment), and found themselves struggling to get hired, because when your budget is hundreds of dollars for a low budget event, there's no money there. Meanwhile, Uber and Lyft weaseled out of it by passing Prop 22, which did get worker benefits, but on terms more favorable to the rideshare companies. So basically, the lawmakers figure "big idea = good things," but then they don't foresee some of the consequences. I'm sure other states have this too, but California likes to legislate in hard mode. (Large population + bloated bureaucracy = laws that are a mess.) Most of the bad ones get something else passed later to nullify them, but Prop 65 probably won't be, because it just adds an ignorable warning and not much else. I like your formula: “Large population + bloated bureaucracy = laws that are a mess”. Basically, we can agree that the lawmakers need to grow more brain cells. Lol I would be interested to know what evidence they used and what statistical risk was concluded from any such studies (if any were actually done). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPX | 1,411 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 12 hours ago, JamesRobot said: Hey, at least they had the coolest and best physique Governor ever. (Not sure of his governing skills though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,718 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, GPX said: I like your formula: “Large population + bloated bureaucracy = laws that are a mess”. Basically, we can agree that the lawmakers need to grow more brain cells. Lol I would be interested to know what evidence they used and what statistical risk was concluded from any such studies (if any were actually done). Most of the time they do use experts and it's fine, but sometimes it's "election year, let's ram this through while we still can!" Some propositions aren't even initiated by legislation. Anyone who can get enough signatures can put one up for vote. But you have to spend a ton of money (like Uber and Lyft did) to get it to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange | 1,731 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 If we’re talking governors, I think us Tennesseans have it the worst. If we had elected a half eaten zebra with degenerative brain disease we’d have more effective leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,718 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, GPX said: Hey, at least they had the coolest and best physique Governor ever. (Not sure of his governing skills though) He was okay. Better than Gray Davis. Not as good as Jerry Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 hours ago, Tanooki said: Terminal brain cancer, largely lacking any good thought at the legislative level anymore (and as such the population largely who keep them in there.) So terribly run its the 6th latgest economy in the world? Still mad you couldnt hack it here with the big boys huh? Dave couldnt either, its ok! California is like tom Brady. Everyone hates you because of how good you are lol We pay more taxes so Its been proven we are more productive americans. CNN/MSNBC did a study, and proved it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tulpa said: He was okay. Better than Gray Davis. Not as good as Jerry Brown. Jerry brown was awesome. But, I actually liked The Governator, he wasnt even a real republican. He hustled the right wingers just like Trump did to get them to vote for him. I think they saw a bit of Regan in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,015 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 hours ago, MrWunderful said: So terribly run its the 6th latgest economy in the world? Still mad you couldnt hack it here with the big boys huh? Dave couldnt either, its ok! Umm what? I've only ever been to the airport in San Fran, and it sucks. You're right, I don't want to deal with missing my connections due to delays. Also don't want to finger paint in shit when walking down the street. California sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWunderful | 2,932 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, fcgamer said: Umm what? I've only ever been to the airport in San Fran, and it sucks. You're right, I don't want to deal with missing my connections due to delays. Also don't want to finger paint in shit when walking down the street. California sucks. Fun fact, i grew up a mile from SFO. You might have been within that distance of me at one point in time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcgamer | 5,015 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, MrWunderful said: Fun fact, i grew up a mile from SFO. You might have been within that distance of me at one point in time! Oh wow, that's cool. I've only been through that way over the past ten years though, when flying to Taiwan or back home. In all seriousness though, I do try to avoid that airport because of the delays, preferring to just transfer in Tokyo. Always did enjoy the 7 AM beers from Gordan Biersch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,125 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 hours ago, MrWunderful said: So terribly run its the 6th latgest economy in the world? Still mad you couldnt hack it here with the big boys huh? Dave couldnt either, its ok! California is like tom Brady. Everyone hates you because of how good you are lol We pay more taxes so Its been proven we are more productive americans. CNN/MSNBC did a study, and proved it. Eh what? Hack it? Weather aside, I didn't like the state even before it turned into a test bed for liberal democrat leaning really bad ideas and schemes. Too expensive sure but the pay kind of balances that, the over crowding, dirtiness, crime, awful traffic, lack of friendliness, wasted time, leaning towards bilingual or no job garbage, the list goes on. I know you're joking, but I was glad to leave the first time, escape the second. Outside of vacation there's just not much to like left there anymore sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,718 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tanooki said: Too expensive sure but the pay kind of balances that, the over crowding, dirtiness, crime, awful traffic, lack of friendliness, wasted time, leaning towards bilingual or no job garbage, the list goes on. I've lived here for nearly thirty years and aside from the traffic (which is only during rush hour), I've never experienced any of that. But hey, hit all the untrue cliches while you're at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,125 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tulpa said: I've lived here for nearly thirty years and aside from the traffic (which is only during rush hour), I've never experienced any of that. But hey, hit all the untrue cliches while you're at it. Yeah I've lived there just as long, string me another yarn. That state went severely downhill into the 21st century. Ask me back in the 90s, I would have loved it still. Just because where you lived you didn't have that, doesn't make that behemoth of a state sunshine and roses everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,718 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tanooki said: Yeah I've lived there just as long, string me another yarn. That state went severely downhill into the 21st century. Ask me back in the 90s, I would have loved it still. Just because where you lived you didn't have that, doesn't make that behemoth of a state sunshine and roses everywhere. I live in LA, the hotbed of whatever conservatives gripe about at any given moment. But you know, we actually contribute to the nation, rather than those states that mooch off of it. If any state's gone downhill, it certainly isn't this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,125 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Keep telling yourself that, it's fine. I wasn't going to reply again but I was too stuck between the eye roll and laugh emoji not being able to use both. Probably best we drop it, seriously not going to agree on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,718 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Tanooki said: Keep telling yourself that, it's fine. I wasn't going to reply again but I was too stuck between the eye roll and laugh emoji not being able to use both. Probably best we drop it, seriously not going to agree on this one. Hey, actually live here now, while I know you haven't since the NA days. So, yeah, I think I know a thing or two about where I live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki | 5,125 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Tulpa said: Hey, actually live here now, while I know you haven't since the NA days. So, yeah, I think I know a thing or two about where I live. Parents still live there so I'm not entirely out of the loop and before the dumb virus I used to go back and visit. I left the state 9 years ago, haven't been back in 2.5-3yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulpa | 3,718 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) It's all good. We all live where we want. I grew up in the Great Plains, and had to get out because of the casual racism, the lack of jobs, the fact that if you weren't working in agriculture you weren't working, the lack of any real recreation, and the unfriendliness to outsiders. Maybe it's changed since then, but kind of doubt it (seems like it's stuck in the 50s.) Every state sucks in their own way. Edited January 6, 2022 by Tulpa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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