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My guess is that the list was made by taking games that fit the time frame and not actually by any sort of verification. I agree, but unless someone checks the soldering job, it would be indistinguishable from anything legit. That's kinda the point Basil's making there - it's not all that difficult to fake something like this, especially when you consider how few people know exactly what to look for to avoid the fakes. In my experience, the number of people using resources like VGS is maybe 5% of the population of collectors, if that. There are a ton of people out there that simply wouldn't know the difference. And my point was to illustrate just how easily such a fake could be produced, as anyone with a soldering iron and a few minutes on Bootgod's site (or more specifically the mirror site, since the main one has been down for months) could make a passable fake with legitimate "back in the day" parts.

Step 1: Acquire a Doreamon cart with through-hole chips. Step 2: Acquire a Gumshoe cart. Step 3: Acquire a Stack Up cart. Step 4: Put Gumshoe chips onto Doreamon board. Step 5: Put Doreamon board into converter in Stack Up cart. Step 6: Put board and converter into Gumshoe shell. It's a bit more than 5 minutes work, but entirely doable.

The size, scope, etc. It covered boxes and manuals instead of just game rarity. It had all regions covered. It had variants out the wazoo. Full manual scans. And the collection tool on top of it all. And all that data in one place rather than having to scour the dark corners of the internet. Honestly, the only knock against it was that it didn't cover all consoles. But since between the three Ages that Dain owned, it covered an absolute shitton of what's out there. That said, maybe someone out there can do better? I'd gladly sacrifice the collection tool for a comprehensive database like that, but I'm absolutely the worst guy to be in charge of something like that, seeing as I almost never stick to a project long enough to see it to completion.

Or Mr Nutz for that matter And let's not forget It's Mr Pants either

I'm not sure how much of the database was outdated vs how much was never fully finished or updated, but as a resource it was pretty much unmatched. I still can't find info elsewhere on a lot of the systems that were documented, so I definitely wish the database as it was were still around. And actively maintained.

That's the only downside to the fall of NA. And the only part I wish we could resurrect.

Yeah, all of this. It wasn't the first print at all, it was the second or third printing most likely, and likely due to the chip shortage in '86 coupled with higher than anticipated demand for many games. It could only really be done with games that didn't need localization though. And seeing as the shortage lasted a couple years, it stands to reason that other surprise hits might have got the converter treatment, as using overstocked Famicom carts with a converter would be better than waiting for a new batch of chips to meet demand.

Would you believe I never got so much as a warning there? Like I was there so long that my shit was tolerated, but a noob wouldn't be. I definitely wasn't a fan of how some shit was handled there once Dain pretty much checked out.

I prefer to take that as besmirching Canada with his presence

Well, I don't feel the need to disappear from VGS for months on end to avoid the negativity. Guess GoCollect kept that part of NA too

Sounds a bit like NA by the end of it...

In before "I meant standard carts"

For Tanooki's Sim City cart I used Nobunaga II. Pretty much all the MMC5 and VRC6/7 releases are massive.

I'll be finding out about Lagrange Point in a month or two. Buddy of mine commissioned one from me, just waiting for him to acquire the donor. But yeah, it'll require modification, and will be pretty damn snug if I do manage to get it in there.

Anything that's not Stack Up would be rarer than the 72 pin version. Anything that wasn't a launch title would be exceedingly rare. The original runs used converters to fill the supply at launch. Anything outside of that was likely a result of the 80s chip shortage, but that's entirely speculation on my part. And anything not using the converter you find in Stack Up is likely fake.

I said they wouldn't fit without modification. I didn't say they wouldn't fit at all. I've had to modify cases before, and will again. It's the middle screw that fucks it up, as there's nowhere for the screw hole to pass through a tall famicom board. Well, I'm with you on that, though it still requires the specific converter to make it look authentic, and most wouldn't be worth sacrificing a Stack Up cart to acquire it.

You said literally any game can be put into an NES cart with a converter. No caveats. That is physically not possible for many games. To come back with a caveat after without admitting your mistake is poor form. Anyway, considering some of the games came to light before faking such things would benefit anyone, I'm inclined to say they were legitimate. And being that there was a chip shortage during the late 80s, it actually makes sense that things like MTPO and Raid on Bungeling Bay would've had this treatment - convert some overstocked Famicom carts to US carts to avoid having to remanufacture them. I'm with you now that I'd be skeptical of any new ones that popped up nowadays, but a blanket statement about there being no legitimacy to them at all is asinine at best.

Seconded. I have never heard anyone refer to then as boxes. Like ever.

That's not true at all. Standard sized boards sure, but the tall ones require modification to the case to be able to physically close the case.

Probably a lot of things man I've forgotten more things than you'll ever know in this hobby. 25+ years collecting will do that to ya

No idea. I don't read much anymore, since new info is so damn rare for me. The discovery predates NintendoAge, so it would definitely fall into the "old news" category for me

I can't speak to the veracity of that particular copy, but I can say it has been confirmed years ago. Multiple copies are known to exist, though I don't think anyone ever figured out why they exist. Realistically though, no post launch game should exist in that manner, but it could have something to do with the chip shortages that happened in the 80s...maybe converters bypassed a part that couldn't be sourced?

Not to mention everything else he mentioned in the title...

So i just stumbled on this and saw I was mentioned with regard to the star manuals. It's been over a decade since I did the research into it, but I may have misspoke in the quote I made. For some reason it's in my brain that the star was meant to denote the epilepsy warning being in the manual, not the protection TV one. Both were on separate inserts before the switch. Assuming the circled T is for the TV warning, this would make perfect sense, and would also be an easy thing for me to have confused Though I have long since sold off my manuals, so I have no way to double check this. And I'm not reading through 7 pages to see if this was previously mentioned, so forgive me if this is redundant. But yeah, I'm sure someone here can confirm/refute this idea.

Seeing as I haven't touched my PS3 in like 5 years and I couldn't be arsed to buy their later machines, I have nothing to post